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I remember raising my hand up
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and pulling back the curtains,
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and that's when I came
face-to-face
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with what we now know
as a Grey.
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Millions of people claiming
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to be abducted
by extraterrestrials.
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How many of you have had
an experience
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- of having been abducted?
- Wow.
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Ancient stories
of humans brought off planet
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by otherworldly beings.
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Angels, demons, spirits...
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are these the same
extraterrestrial entities
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who are interacting
with us today?
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My mother and I both had this
dreamlike experience
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of being taken to a craft.
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And I saw these
nonhuman entities.
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Could these incredible
stories really be true?
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And if so, why are humans
being taken?
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You have to ask yourself
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what is really going on here?
Because these cases
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simply defy explanation.
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Pasadena, California.
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June 16, 2018.
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Thousands of people from all
over the world gather
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for AlienCon,
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a three-day event to discuss
and explore the possibility
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that intelligent life exists
beyond our planet,
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and may have visited Earth
in the distant past.
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It's one thing for people to say
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that not only have they
seen a UFO,
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but they've had an experience,
a contact...
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During one panel
led by former
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Ministry of Defence
investigator Nick Pope,
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a group of experts talk about
a significant
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and controversial subject:
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alien abductions.
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Looking out at all of you,
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one of the things that we would
like to know is,
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how many of you have had
an experience you think
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might involve
having been abducted?
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Can you all put your hands up
who think that you have been?
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Wow, that's a lot of people.
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If anyone feels comfortable
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about coming up
to the microphone,
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we would love to hear
your stories.
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So, uh, please, yeah.
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My name's, uh, Alice Green.
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And, um, 40 years ago,
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uh, when I was 15, I, um,
I had an abduction experience.
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There was a huge spaceship
over my house,
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and, uh, one minute I'm in my
bed and the next minute
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I'm up in the spaceship.
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I wanted to call it a dream,
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because I didn't want to call it
an abduction experience
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for a long time.
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I started having
one of those experiences,
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out of body, but not just in
the vicinity.
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I kind of started entering
the space realm,
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and I just kept going.
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And it just got scarier
and scarier for me.
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I didn't know what was going on.
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The alien that I spoke to
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was about to my shoulder,
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maybe four and a half feet tall,
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and he had three fingers.
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He was like
your typical grey alien.
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And I had several encounters
over the course
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of the next couple years.
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I never wanted to tell anybody
because I thought my friends
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and family would think
I was crazy.
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Millions of people
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taken by
extraterrestrial beings?
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If alien abductions
are happening,
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as experiencers at this panel
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and many other
alleged abductees claim,
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what evidence is there
to support their stories?
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As the number of recorded
abduction cases has increased
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over the last several decades,
experts in a variety of fields
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have worked
to find this evidence.
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In 1991, my colleague
Budd Hopkins and I
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got funding for a national poll
about the abduction phenomenon
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through the Roper Organization.
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We found that at least two
percent of the American public,
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and at most, perhaps even five
percent of the American public,
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were abductees.
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Even with two percent, we're
dealing with an enormous number
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of people who've been abducted
throughout the world.
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Of course, when people
from the outside
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look at
the abduction phenomenon,
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they think that
this is just neurological.
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I wish that was the case.
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That would be wonderful
if that were the case.
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I can say, from having
interviewed now
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about 1,600 people
in the abduction syndrome,
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there are common denominators.
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I would say the vast majority
don't know details.
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They just remember pieces.
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They might remember,
"I saw these eyes,
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and they were big and black
and slanted."
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They will hear either
a buzzing sound,
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or there might be a clicking.
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Or in the room, there might be,
like, a little orb of light,
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or several orbs of light.
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They won't be able to move.
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And the paralysis is always
described the same way.
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They can move their eyes,
they can see.
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They can't move their head.
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They will say they see their
bedroom wall just disappear.
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Or they are taken
right through the wall.
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Or they're taken
through a window.
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Or they are taken
through the ceiling.
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And then 100% of people,
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their next consciousness is
waking up, often the sun is up,
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and they know
something's happened,
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but they don't know what.
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Well,
when you start adding it up
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across 40, 50,000 cases,
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the number one piece
of compelling evidence
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is the credibility
of the individual.
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We have doctors,
lawyers, politicians.
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So these are people
who have a lot at stake
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if they were to say,
"Hey, I've been abducted
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by an alien,"
or something like this,
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so you have to take
those people seriously.
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There are really only two
possibilities here.
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Either we're dealing
with a mass delusion
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on an unprecedented scale,
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or what these people are saying
is actually literally happening
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in a physical sense, and these
alien abductions are real.
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But if millions
of people have been abducted
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by extraterrestrials... or even
a fraction of that number...
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what could be
the reason behind it?
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And why now?
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While what we call
alien abductions
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may only have been reported
in modern times,
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ancient astronaut theorists
claim there is evidence
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that this phenomenon
has been happening
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for thousands of years.
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In ancient biblical texts,
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and also in other textual
references, we have accounts
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of people ascending and
descending from and to the sky
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with fiery chariots
and flying type of craft.
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And that to me indicates that
what these accounts refer to
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are similar
to modern-day abductions.
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Those accounts
are eyewitness accounts.
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They're not told
in the third person,
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but it's actually
"I, Ezekiel, witnessed."
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"I, Enoch, witnessed."
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"I, Abraham, did this."
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"I walked through there."
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Also, in ancient China,
and also, in ancient Egypt,
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are there stories of people
having been visited
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or having gone up to the sky to
visit with the so-called gods.
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What better way to describe
an extraterrestrial encounter?
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So today, we call it
an "alien abduction."
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In previous centuries, it was
called by different names.
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But we recognize
from the experience
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that they are identical.
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And therefore, it adds validity
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to this not being a modern myth,
but a very ancient problem.
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Why today, then,
is it such an important issue?
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It very well may be that we did
not recognize in the past
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how widespread
these experiences were.
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Or it could be that there
is a stepping up of the agenda,
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and that the experience
is spreading greater,
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farther and wider
than it was in the past.
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Could these
extraordinary accounts,
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both past and present, be
describing an ongoing program
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of human abduction,
in spite of the skepticism
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with which they are
viewed by the public?
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And is there a smoking gun
that will finally establish
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that this phenomenon is real,
and still underway?
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Perhaps further clues
can be found by examining
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one of the most well-documented
cases on record.
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Sheffield, Massachusetts.
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June 11, 2018.
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Well, we're pretty much
here now.
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Author and researcher Mike Bara
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has joined abduction experiencer
Thom Reed to visit the site
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where Thom says he and members
of his family were abducted
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after encountering a strange UFO
nearly 50 years ago.
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Does it evoke any memories or
emotions, bring back anything?
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Like an anxiety.
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- Really?
- Or nervousness I guess.
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The UFO was reportedly seen,
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not only by the Reed family,
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but also by multiple witnesses
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all across
Western Massachusetts.
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Okay. So, I guess here we are.
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- This is the spot, right?
- This is it.
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Can you kind of paint me
a picture of what was going on
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that night,
what happened the day
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- you drove up this road?
- Sure.
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Well, first of all,
it was, like, 90 degrees.
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It was a really hot night,
and there were
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an awful lot of families outside
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because it was Labor Day.
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It was September 1, 1969,
which was a Labor Day holiday.
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Okay. Can you describe what
people saw? I mean, did they see
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- just a light in the sky?
- They all saw something
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- a little bit different.
- What do you remember
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about what happened to you
and your family?
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There's a lot of time
that went by,
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and I only remember
little pieces of it.
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But, uh, we were coming
right down this road here,
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and we were heading
through the bridge.
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- Mm-hmm.
- And, uh, let-let me show you.
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- Okay. Sure.
- All right?
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At 9:00 p.m.
on the night of the sighting,
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ten-year-old Thom
and his mother, grandmother
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and brother were just minutes
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from getting home
when they crossed the bridge.
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Well, I was in the back seat
behind the driver, my mother.
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- Mm-hmm.
- And my grandmother,
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who was sitting
in the passenger seat,
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was the first one to notice
that there was a...
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an odd light
that didn't seem to make sense.
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There was a bleed of light
coming through the bridge.
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So light was coming
through places
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it should not have been
if it was just headlights.
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Yeah, it was coming
through the walls a little bit,
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coming through the floorboards.
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Then we exited the bridge.
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This is the spot right there.
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This is where
we first saw it, Mike.
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So, um,
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- can you describe what you saw?
- Yeah.
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It was like an orb,
if you would, or a sphere,
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and it was about, I'm gonna say
maybe 30, 40 yards round.
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It was a perfectly round sphere,
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and it had rods of light
that seemed to fire from it.
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So it looked like a shiver cone,
or an ice cream cone.
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So, none of you has ever seen
anything like this before?
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No, not like that, no.
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As Thom's mother continued
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driving slowly down the road,
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the object flew on a route
parallel to theirs
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until it took an abrupt turn,
cutting them off.
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The car comes to a stop,
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and there's a feeling
that came over the car,
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which was like a...
some type of a field.
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And we were just gone.
We aren't in the car anymore.
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And I remember seeing a light
or a door of some kind.
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And I was grabbed like this
on my left arm.
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And I was kind of pushed
towards this door.
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I went into the door.
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And I was sitting on...
almost like a-an autopsy table.
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And I saw what looked like
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some type of a large insect,
like an ant, if you will.
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Very stick-like legs,
bamboo almost.
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And that's what frightened me,
and then I was out.
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Then I remember waking
in the back of the car.
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If you could... remember
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every single detail,
every single thing that happened
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- to you, would you want to?
- I want to know,
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but at the same time,
I'm not sure I...
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that's a good thing
at this point.
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It's-it's confusing.
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You know, I kind of need to know
everything that happened,
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but at the same time, there's
really no way for me to do that.
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For years following
the reported event,
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a number of local authorities
and UFO investigators
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tried to find evidence
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that would validate the Reed
family's incredible account.
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One of these was a local judge
named Kevin Titus,
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who has spent decades
interviewing eyewitnesses
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and verifying their testimony.
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It is his belief that enough
evidence exists to conclude
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that something otherworldly did,
in fact,
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happen on that summer night
nearly 50 years ago.
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Everybody couldn't explain
what they were seeing.
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People were saying...
calling in WSBS radio,
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and telling them
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that there's something going on
over in this area.
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And, uh, nobody was able to
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completely say what it was,
but everybody saw it.
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There was well over 250 people
that called in.
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They were scared, hysterical.
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Some people couldn't explain
what they saw.
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They called the police.
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And they called
the Army Reserve Air Base.
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It's a fact, it did happen.
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When you have over 250 people
that saw something the same day,
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how can you say it wasn't true?
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Over 250 callers?
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And all reportedly seeing the
same unidentified flying object?
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For abduction researchers
and local authorities,
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the incredible number
of witnesses
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gave the Reed family's case
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an uncommonly high level
of credibility.
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So much so
that on November 3, 2015,
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Massachusetts Governor Charles
D. Baker issued a citation
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which formally recognized
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that a verified UFO event
had taken place,
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just as the Reed family
and many others had described.
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To date, no other
alien encounter has received
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this kind of acknowledgement.
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What I think is important
in all this is
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that we were the first to be
state-inducted as a true event.
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And I think that opens doors,
and paves the way for a lot
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of other people who deserve
to be taken more seriously.
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Do the verified accounts
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of the Sheffield incident
refute skeptics
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who claim that abduction stories
are unreliable?
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Ancient astronaut theorists
say yes, and they suggest
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that even more compelling
evidence can be found
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by examining memories buried
deep inside... the human mind.
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At one of the AlienCon panels
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examining
alien abduction phenomena,
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a member of the audience shares
what he believes
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to have been
a real-life alien encounter,
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one involving missing time.
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In about 1996,
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I saw a UFO, and it scared me
bad enough that I called 911.
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And it just flew
around a water tower
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across the street from my house,
and went
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into Oak Riparian Park,
and, uh, I grabbed
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my flashlight. I wanted
to see it, and I chased it.
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And the next thing I remember,
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I'm-I'm walking back.
But I have this thing.
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Every time I go back
to that same park,
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I feel like
I'm missing something.
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It's a very common thing,
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missing time
with the abduction experience.
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And so, yeah, so, I've been
helping a lot of people going...
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you know,
go through the regression.
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There's different ways
that you can do regression,
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but I definitely encourage you
to do that.
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Caroline Cory is an expert
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in hypnotic regression...
a meditative practice used
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to release missing time memories
that have been suppressed,
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but are still present
in a person's subconscious mind.
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For the past 16 years,
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she has specialized in helping
people remember and understand
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what they believe
to be an incident
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involving extraterrestrial
abduction.
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When people have a trauma,
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they tend to push it back
into the subconscious mind,
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because, on a conscious level,
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it is associated with fear,
anxiety.
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Hypnotherapy allows you
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to bring the mind
to a certain level
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so that the person is
so relaxed,
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they're almost in a trance.
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Then they can tap
into their subconscious mind
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and relive the experience.
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When you relive the experience,
you...
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right away,
you begin to heal it.
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That is what happens
in hypnotherapy.
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- Hey, Joe. How are you?
- Hi, Caroline.
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On June 11, 2018,
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Caroline met with Joe Cerletti
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for a hypnotic
regression session.
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Joe has had difficulty
remembering the details
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of an incident that happened
in the spring of 2008,
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when he and two friends were
driving on a dark highway
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just after midnight
near Oakland, California.
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We were just driving down
the road at an average speed,
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65, maybe 70 miles an hour,
and instantaneously,
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we weren't driving anymore
and the car was shut off.
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And we were parked
about 45 minutes away
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in a parking lot for an
amusement park after hours
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and we were locked
inside the gate
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with no explanation how
we got there at that time.
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Joe realized
that he and his friends
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may have been abducted
by extraterrestrials,
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extraterrestrials
which he believes
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deliberately blocked his memory.
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Today, Caroline will use
hypnotic regression
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to hopefully help
Joe remember more
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about what happened
on that night.
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You ready?
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- I am.
- Okay, here we go.
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So, we're gonna sit up straight
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with the feet flat on the floor.
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And close your eyes.
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And take a deep breath
in through the nose.
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And exhale through the mouth.
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As you exhale...
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...you let go of the stress,
the tension.
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Focus on your hands,
on your arms...
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on your heart.
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We are now in the year 2008.
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You are driving
with two friends.
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And then what happens?
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A very bright flash of light
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just surrounds us
and absorbs us.
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Okay.
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I'm getting
these thoughts in my head
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that I've never heard before.
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- I'm trying to...
- Don't try.
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Don't assess or judge
or analyze.
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You are in the experience,
in the feeling.
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You feel safe, protected.
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And the light,
where is the light coming from?
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Almost like
a portal being opened.
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It's being opened by a ship.
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Okay. What is the next thing
that you experience?
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I'm starting to actually get
a visual of...
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guess you could call them faces.
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- Who's there?
- Just beings.
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Do you get a sense
of why you ended up there,
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not someone else?
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They're showing me just, like,
a line from my family.
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Goes,
they're just going back in time.
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They're saying that there's
always been a connection to,
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a close connection,
as far back as it goes.
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Okay.
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The biggest question that
the abductees have is, "Why me?"
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Why did this happen to me?"
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If they can sense that this
happened not just to them,
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but to their parents
and their grandparents,
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it brings some sort of closure,
it starts to make sense to them
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and they start to feel
that there's a real connection.
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It wasn't a random thing.
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Breathe in through the nose.
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As you exhale through the mouth,
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you're purging
all of this energy.
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Let it go, let it go, yes.
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And slowly, slowly, whenever
you're ready, open your eyes.
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Wow.
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- Excellent.
- Yeah.
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Wow.
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- Well, you did amazing. That was awesome.
- Thank you. - You did...
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- thank you so much.
- Absolutely.
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There was a time where
I was scared to find the answers
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because, I think,
the whole unknown factor
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is a basic human fear:
not knowing,
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the unknown, the abyss,
the dark.
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But I needed those answers
'cause I needed some sort of
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explanation for what happened
that night.
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- All right, I think we're done for today.
- Okay.
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For Joe Cerletti,
and others like him,
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hypnotic regression
is an important tool
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in unlocking memories that may
be buried due to trauma.
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But are there other,
even more authoritative methods,
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that might help prove that alien
abductions actually take place?
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Ancient astronaut theorists
say yes,
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and point to recent experiments
that collect
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convincing scientific data
from the human brain.
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Of the featured guests
at AlienCon 2018,
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three claim to have had
firsthand experience
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with extraterrestrials:
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consciousness researcher
Caroline Cory,
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Kathleen Marden, the director of
Experiencer Research for MUFON,
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the Mutual UFO Network,
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and Bret Oldham,
a man who claims to have had
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more than a dozen
abduction experiences
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since the age of five.
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So many, in fact,
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that he has authored
three books on the subject.
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Uh, I was first taken
when I was five years old,
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and the memories were suppressed
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all the way up
until I was in my early 20s.
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And it was through the therapy
that I discovered the truth
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of what had been
happening to me.
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The psychological damage
of being taken
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and having sexual experiments
performed on you,
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and being subjected to a lot
of things like that.
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I decided not to become
a victim to it.
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And it took me 20, 20 some years
to get enough nerve
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to come forward and face
what was out there,
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because I wanted
to become a voice
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for others who have had
these experiences.
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For more than a decade,
Bret Oldham has been an advocate
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for those who claim to have
had similar experiences.
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Like all abductees, he has faced
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both skepticism and scorn
from the public.
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This is a worldwide phenomena,
it's happening
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in a grand scale and it's
happening to all walks of life.
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Thank you very much.
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Earlier this year,
in an effort to learn
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if his abduction memories
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could be clinically proven,
Bret agreed
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to submit to a scientific test.
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- Why don't you come on back?
- Sure. -Great, thanks.
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If successful, the test,
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involving an EEG scan
of Bret's brain,
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could go a long way
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toward proving that
extraterrestrial abductions
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are actually taking place.
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Conducting the test is
neuroscientist Dr. Dario Nardi,
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under the supervision
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of former British Ministry of
Defence investigator, Nick Pope.
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Okay, we will be using, um, this
little piece of equipment today.
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Are you familiar with EEG?
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I'm familiar with it.
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There are no wires or whatnot,
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there's just these
little sensors.
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And I will be placing this
on your head like this.
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Okay.
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An EEG,
or electroencephalography,
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is a noninvasive method
of measuring
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the electrochemical activity
of the neurons in the brain.
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It works by placing
a network of electrodes
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over areas of the scalp,
which can, in turn, register
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not only the area of the brain
that is being stimulated,
498
00:26:28,974 --> 00:26:32,852
but also the degree
of stimulation.
499
00:26:33,007 --> 00:26:34,283
We can make a couple
of inferences
500
00:26:34,307 --> 00:26:35,885
when we see the brain activity.
501
00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:39,379
One is, if we see
what are called alpha waves
502
00:26:39,554 --> 00:26:43,059
in particular, in the temporal
regions of the brain,
503
00:26:43,214 --> 00:26:45,119
then that's gonna give us
a good idea
504
00:26:45,121 --> 00:26:48,312
that the person is recalling
something from memory.
505
00:26:48,314 --> 00:26:51,665
On the other hand,
if we see, uh, activity more
506
00:26:51,721 --> 00:26:53,579
in the front of the brain,
507
00:26:53,581 --> 00:26:55,579
where there's maybe not
those alpha waves
508
00:26:55,734 --> 00:26:57,672
of some other kind of activity,
509
00:26:57,761 --> 00:27:01,325
then that's gonna suggest that
the person is crafting something
510
00:27:01,501 --> 00:27:04,672
or coming up with an answer
or explanation in the moment.
511
00:27:04,781 --> 00:27:07,112
So we can differentiate sort of
512
00:27:07,114 --> 00:27:10,432
storytelling versus
accessing the memory.
513
00:27:10,434 --> 00:27:13,652
Nick will ask Bret
a series of questions
514
00:27:13,807 --> 00:27:16,405
about his abduction experiences,
515
00:27:16,561 --> 00:27:19,599
and Dr. Nardi will observe
the neural activity
516
00:27:19,754 --> 00:27:22,545
that occurs
during Bret's responses.
517
00:27:22,701 --> 00:27:26,165
If, for example,
Bret is inventing or making up
518
00:27:26,321 --> 00:27:29,365
his answers,
it should show up as activity
519
00:27:29,521 --> 00:27:33,719
on the part of the brain most
associated with imagination.
520
00:27:35,181 --> 00:27:38,452
Okay. We are ready to go.
521
00:27:38,454 --> 00:27:41,419
Well, perhaps, uh,
first of all, Bret,
522
00:27:41,421 --> 00:27:43,639
was there a single incident
that started this?
523
00:27:43,641 --> 00:27:45,285
Uh, there was.
524
00:27:45,287 --> 00:27:47,859
Um, we lived
in Southern Illinois,
525
00:27:48,014 --> 00:27:53,272
in an old farmhouse surrounded
by just cornfields and soybean
526
00:27:53,361 --> 00:27:55,852
and stuff like that, and
I'd lived a pretty innocent life
527
00:27:56,007 --> 00:27:57,739
up until that point.
528
00:27:57,894 --> 00:28:00,645
One night, I heard a voice,
529
00:28:00,801 --> 00:28:03,125
and I actually thought
it was my stepdad,
530
00:28:03,281 --> 00:28:06,439
'cause it's very, very quiet
out in the country.
531
00:28:06,461 --> 00:28:08,139
Did the voice say something?
532
00:28:08,141 --> 00:28:11,572
The voice was coaxing me
to come to the window.
533
00:28:11,681 --> 00:28:15,725
I got up
and I walked across the floor.
534
00:28:15,881 --> 00:28:18,012
I could see a light
coming through.
535
00:28:18,187 --> 00:28:20,752
It just kept coaxing me to come,
536
00:28:20,841 --> 00:28:23,525
and I was just
a curious little boy.
537
00:28:23,681 --> 00:28:25,392
And I remember
raising my hand up
538
00:28:25,547 --> 00:28:28,405
and pulling back the curtains,
539
00:28:28,407 --> 00:28:30,492
and that's when I came
face-to-face
540
00:28:30,494 --> 00:28:32,439
with what we now know as a Grey.
541
00:28:35,774 --> 00:28:38,519
- So what did you think it was?
- I had no idea.
542
00:28:38,674 --> 00:28:40,479
I had never seen anything
like that before.
543
00:28:40,634 --> 00:28:44,812
And before I could scream
for help or anything,
544
00:28:44,987 --> 00:28:48,332
the next thing I remember
was laying on a table,
545
00:28:48,487 --> 00:28:51,252
surrounded by these things.
546
00:28:51,261 --> 00:28:54,152
And you said, uh,
before you could scream,
547
00:28:54,154 --> 00:28:55,619
so I presume
from what you're saying
548
00:28:55,621 --> 00:28:58,359
- that you were very scared.
- Very scared.
549
00:28:58,361 --> 00:29:01,392
That first incident made such
an indelible mark in my psyche
550
00:29:01,547 --> 00:29:03,539
that I-I had
nightmares about it,
551
00:29:03,694 --> 00:29:06,192
up until just several years ago.
552
00:29:06,347 --> 00:29:08,639
Even now, after all the time,
553
00:29:08,641 --> 00:29:12,132
how does it make you feel
looking back on that incident
554
00:29:12,134 --> 00:29:15,119
and what's your,
what's your bottom line on this,
555
00:29:15,274 --> 00:29:18,199
in terms of what you think's
going on?
556
00:29:18,201 --> 00:29:21,285
I don't think anyone really
knows what their true agenda is.
557
00:29:21,441 --> 00:29:23,239
You know, some people speculate
558
00:29:23,241 --> 00:29:24,737
that they're gonna
take over our planet.
559
00:29:24,761 --> 00:29:26,165
Uh, I don't.
560
00:29:26,321 --> 00:29:27,765
I-I think if they were
gonna do that,
561
00:29:27,941 --> 00:29:30,405
- they would have already done it.
- Right.
562
00:29:30,461 --> 00:29:33,532
After Nick and Bret
finish their session,
563
00:29:33,534 --> 00:29:36,679
Dr. Nardi shares
the EEG results,
564
00:29:36,834 --> 00:29:40,625
and what they reveal
about Bret and his story.
565
00:29:40,627 --> 00:29:46,665
So we had about
45 minutes worth of data.
566
00:29:46,821 --> 00:29:50,419
You asked questions that truly
were speculative questions,
567
00:29:50,421 --> 00:29:52,719
versus ones that were asking
for literal recall.
568
00:29:52,721 --> 00:29:54,799
And we saw that, really,
they were activating
569
00:29:54,821 --> 00:29:57,559
in very different parts
of the brain.
570
00:29:57,714 --> 00:30:00,352
Consistently,
when you asked him to speculate,
571
00:30:00,354 --> 00:30:02,492
like, "Why do you think
that they do this,"
572
00:30:02,647 --> 00:30:04,485
then clearly, we see
this region of the brain
573
00:30:04,541 --> 00:30:07,232
in the left hemisphere sort
of by the left temple here,
574
00:30:07,407 --> 00:30:09,185
that that would get active.
575
00:30:09,187 --> 00:30:11,532
So that, that was
a really good baseline.
576
00:30:11,534 --> 00:30:15,865
In contrast, there were
at least a half a dozen moments
577
00:30:15,921 --> 00:30:19,459
which really strongly activated
over on this side instead,
578
00:30:19,461 --> 00:30:23,232
which is associated more
with literal recall.
579
00:30:23,234 --> 00:30:26,139
In other words, uh,
we're just gonna give the facts,
580
00:30:26,294 --> 00:30:29,185
and the details, or rather,
recall without embellishment.
581
00:30:29,341 --> 00:30:32,079
Indicative of an actual memory?
582
00:30:32,234 --> 00:30:33,345
Most of the time.
583
00:30:33,501 --> 00:30:36,665
"Recall without embellishment?"
584
00:30:36,741 --> 00:30:41,712
Could this result be evidence
that Bret's story is true,
585
00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:44,739
and that these abductions
really took place?
586
00:30:44,741 --> 00:30:49,185
Those moments that you described
like sitting with the tall Grey,
587
00:30:49,187 --> 00:30:52,292
that's what that
looked like in the brain.
588
00:30:52,467 --> 00:30:56,179
By differentiating between
memory and speculation,
589
00:30:56,334 --> 00:31:01,899
in one sense the EEG machine
acted as a sort of polygraph.
590
00:31:02,054 --> 00:31:04,945
The fact that the part
of the brain involved in memory
591
00:31:05,121 --> 00:31:07,259
lit up and was activated,
592
00:31:07,261 --> 00:31:12,279
says to me that this
is a genuine experience.
593
00:31:12,321 --> 00:31:14,565
This is not a hoax.
594
00:31:14,567 --> 00:31:17,825
This is not somebody who's
making the whole thing up.
595
00:31:17,981 --> 00:31:19,261
Well, Dario,
thank you very much.
596
00:31:19,394 --> 00:31:21,059
This has been very interesting,
597
00:31:21,214 --> 00:31:22,790
and I think we've got
lots of great data here.
598
00:31:22,814 --> 00:31:24,665
- Thank you.
- Absolutely.
599
00:31:24,821 --> 00:31:26,745
- It's my pleasure.
- Really appreciate it.
600
00:31:26,901 --> 00:31:28,617
The journey is always
going to continue for me.
601
00:31:28,641 --> 00:31:32,139
I'm always going to want to
delve deeper into these events,
602
00:31:32,161 --> 00:31:36,119
into what I remember, and
find out what I don't remember.
603
00:31:36,274 --> 00:31:39,639
And I still don't have
all the answers.
604
00:31:39,794 --> 00:31:42,999
If, as the EEG data suggests,
605
00:31:43,174 --> 00:31:44,939
Bret Oldham's claims
606
00:31:45,094 --> 00:31:47,319
of extraterrestrial
abduction are true,
607
00:31:47,341 --> 00:31:51,865
does it help prove that alien
abductions are really happening?
608
00:31:51,941 --> 00:31:54,352
But why?
609
00:31:54,527 --> 00:31:57,685
And for what purpose?
610
00:31:57,841 --> 00:32:01,579
Perhaps further clues can be
found by examining evidence
611
00:32:01,621 --> 00:32:04,932
that aliens have been altering
human biology.
612
00:32:05,107 --> 00:32:10,239
And not just for generations,
but for thousands of years.
613
00:32:16,134 --> 00:32:18,225
Lancaster, New Hampshire.
614
00:32:18,227 --> 00:32:21,745
September 19, 1961.
615
00:32:21,801 --> 00:32:26,092
Betty and Barney Hill
are driving late at night
616
00:32:26,101 --> 00:32:28,485
when a large flying saucer
intercepts them
617
00:32:28,661 --> 00:32:31,872
and hovers over their car.
618
00:32:31,874 --> 00:32:34,025
Above them, the Hills observe
619
00:32:34,201 --> 00:32:38,212
otherworldly figures
in the windows of the craft.
620
00:32:38,214 --> 00:32:42,672
Days later, the couple
reports missing time
621
00:32:42,674 --> 00:32:45,279
and after participating
in hypnotic regression,
622
00:32:45,434 --> 00:32:47,279
they claim to realize
623
00:32:47,434 --> 00:32:50,592
that they were abducted
by extraterrestrials.
624
00:32:50,594 --> 00:32:55,605
In the decades that follow,
the Betty and Barney Hill case
625
00:32:55,761 --> 00:32:58,952
becomes the most well-known and
investigated abduction encounter
626
00:32:59,041 --> 00:33:00,719
in modern history.
627
00:33:00,761 --> 00:33:04,145
But according to Betty
and Barney's descendants,
628
00:33:04,147 --> 00:33:07,399
the incident in Lancaster
is only one part
629
00:33:07,554 --> 00:33:09,799
of a much larger story,
630
00:33:09,954 --> 00:33:13,325
a story that actually
began three years prior
631
00:33:13,401 --> 00:33:16,985
with an incident
involving Betty's sister.
632
00:33:16,987 --> 00:33:21,532
Betty Hill was my aunt,
my mother's sister.
633
00:33:21,534 --> 00:33:25,825
Something that we have
never revealed before
634
00:33:25,827 --> 00:33:30,505
is that my mother had
a close encounter in 1958.
635
00:33:30,581 --> 00:33:34,452
She saw this huge,
cigar-shaped craft
636
00:33:34,627 --> 00:33:36,972
hovering over a field.
637
00:33:37,127 --> 00:33:42,485
She had no explanation for what
had happened as far as she knew.
638
00:33:42,641 --> 00:33:46,172
She had gone shopping
and she had driven home.
639
00:33:46,327 --> 00:33:50,685
My mother eventually
underwent hypnosis
640
00:33:50,687 --> 00:33:54,225
and through hypnosis,
she recalled
641
00:33:54,381 --> 00:33:57,019
having been abducted as well.
642
00:33:57,174 --> 00:34:01,392
And I also had this uncanny
643
00:34:01,481 --> 00:34:03,492
sort of dreamlike experience
644
00:34:03,494 --> 00:34:06,312
of being taken to a craft.
645
00:34:06,467 --> 00:34:10,019
It bothered me
for many, many years.
646
00:34:10,174 --> 00:34:14,332
Eventually, I did talk
to my family about it
647
00:34:14,334 --> 00:34:18,379
and that's when I found out that
my mother had the same memory.
648
00:34:18,421 --> 00:34:21,459
Could it be
that extraterrestrial beings
649
00:34:21,614 --> 00:34:24,572
are abducting
not only individuals,
650
00:34:24,681 --> 00:34:26,439
but also families?
651
00:34:26,461 --> 00:34:29,752
And if so, why?
652
00:34:29,754 --> 00:34:32,445
The abduction phenomenon
is intergenerational.
653
00:34:32,621 --> 00:34:34,712
When a man and a woman marry
654
00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:37,559
and either the man
or the woman is an abductee,
655
00:34:37,714 --> 00:34:40,225
their children
will be abductees.
656
00:34:40,227 --> 00:34:45,445
It seems that specific
bloodlines are involved here.
657
00:34:45,601 --> 00:34:47,785
And if that's the case,
658
00:34:47,787 --> 00:34:50,612
it raises
the intriguing possibility
659
00:34:50,767 --> 00:34:54,772
that the extraterrestrials are
interested in human biology,
660
00:34:54,927 --> 00:34:57,799
that they are monitoring
specific genetic lines
661
00:34:57,821 --> 00:34:59,739
for some purpose.
662
00:34:59,914 --> 00:35:04,445
For ancient astronaut
theorists and UFO researchers,
663
00:35:04,601 --> 00:35:07,105
the notion that
extraterrestrials
664
00:35:07,181 --> 00:35:09,992
are conducting experiments
involving human biology
665
00:35:10,101 --> 00:35:11,659
is not a new one.
666
00:35:11,814 --> 00:35:14,705
Many believe the practice
has been going on
667
00:35:14,861 --> 00:35:18,759
for thousands of years.
668
00:35:18,914 --> 00:35:21,272
Maybe there's some truth
to these entities
669
00:35:21,427 --> 00:35:23,419
which we call shedim.
670
00:35:23,574 --> 00:35:25,312
These are old legends
671
00:35:25,467 --> 00:35:29,812
of people who are abducted,
sexually seduced
672
00:35:29,967 --> 00:35:33,279
and some taken away.
673
00:35:33,434 --> 00:35:36,145
And when we hear today
about the numerous stories
674
00:35:36,301 --> 00:35:39,619
of alien abductions
throughout history,
675
00:35:39,621 --> 00:35:41,952
they are identical.
676
00:35:42,107 --> 00:35:44,119
For proof that their theories
677
00:35:44,274 --> 00:35:48,025
about the biological nature
of alien abductions are valid,
678
00:35:48,081 --> 00:35:50,125
researchers point to the fact
679
00:35:50,127 --> 00:35:54,479
that a relatively high number
of abductees, more than 60%,
680
00:35:54,521 --> 00:35:57,545
have an extraordinarily
rare blood type:
681
00:35:57,601 --> 00:36:00,559
Rh negative.
682
00:36:00,714 --> 00:36:05,805
The subject kept coming up from
the abductees: "I'm Rh negative."
683
00:36:05,807 --> 00:36:09,419
"Could it have anything to do
with why I'm being abducted?"
684
00:36:09,441 --> 00:36:15,039
I got to collaborate with a
doctor, Dr. John Altshuler,
685
00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:19,225
and he did pathology;
he did blood work.
686
00:36:19,281 --> 00:36:24,605
And he gave the conclusion
that Rh negative blood
687
00:36:24,761 --> 00:36:29,645
might actually be
a genetic data point
688
00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:35,539
about why humans
could be hybrids,
689
00:36:35,541 --> 00:36:38,405
that every Rh negative
690
00:36:38,581 --> 00:36:41,932
would be coming
from a history of abductions.
691
00:36:42,107 --> 00:36:45,985
Rh negative
is a very peculiar thing.
692
00:36:45,987 --> 00:36:49,172
First off, it didn't exist
until 35,000 years ago.
693
00:36:49,347 --> 00:36:52,159
It may have been
that 35,000 years ago,
694
00:36:52,201 --> 00:36:54,259
E.T. introduced this
into our society
695
00:36:54,414 --> 00:36:57,319
through whatever breeding
programs they've been running.
696
00:36:57,321 --> 00:37:00,199
The ancient astronaut
theory suggests
697
00:37:00,354 --> 00:37:03,199
that for thousands of years,
698
00:37:03,201 --> 00:37:05,879
extraterrestrials
meddled with our DNA.
699
00:37:05,921 --> 00:37:10,685
There was a time when
we were Homo sapiens.
700
00:37:10,861 --> 00:37:14,205
And then we became
Homo sapiens sapiens.
701
00:37:14,361 --> 00:37:17,659
And that happened
within only 50,000 years,
702
00:37:17,814 --> 00:37:20,719
which by Darwinian
evolutionary standards,
703
00:37:20,874 --> 00:37:24,745
is too short of a time span
for that to happen.
704
00:37:24,901 --> 00:37:29,672
Our brain volume increased
by up to 30%
705
00:37:29,847 --> 00:37:32,939
in 50,000 years,
which is absolutely crazy.
706
00:37:33,094 --> 00:37:35,972
Now, the reason why I think
707
00:37:36,127 --> 00:37:39,232
that modern-day abductions occur
708
00:37:39,321 --> 00:37:44,659
is because maybe we are still
being manipulated with our DNA
709
00:37:44,661 --> 00:37:46,692
from extraterrestrials
710
00:37:46,781 --> 00:37:50,185
in order to turn us
from Homo sapiens sapiens
711
00:37:50,261 --> 00:37:54,139
into Homo sapiens
sapiens sapiens.
712
00:37:54,181 --> 00:37:57,919
Have extraterrestrials
been abducting people
713
00:37:58,094 --> 00:38:01,752
in order to monitor the
evolutionary progress of humans?
714
00:38:01,841 --> 00:38:06,099
Or have they been deliberately
manipulating our biology
715
00:38:06,254 --> 00:38:09,012
in order to achieve
some ultimate purpose?
716
00:38:09,167 --> 00:38:12,305
Ancient astronaut
theorists claim
717
00:38:12,307 --> 00:38:16,405
that both possibilities are
likely true and for this reason,
718
00:38:16,561 --> 00:38:20,605
it is more important than ever
for us to hear the stories
719
00:38:20,661 --> 00:38:24,159
of those who say
they have been taken.
720
00:38:29,894 --> 00:38:31,759
Pasadena, California.
721
00:38:31,914 --> 00:38:36,252
June 16, 2018.
722
00:38:36,261 --> 00:38:40,165
Throughout a discussion
about alien abductions
723
00:38:40,321 --> 00:38:42,079
during a panel at AlienCon,
724
00:38:42,254 --> 00:38:45,885
both the panelists
and members of the audience
725
00:38:45,887 --> 00:38:48,592
remark on how difficult,
but also important it is
726
00:38:48,747 --> 00:38:51,972
to speak out about abductions.
727
00:38:52,127 --> 00:38:55,239
I hesitated coming up here
for a couple reasons.
728
00:38:55,414 --> 00:38:58,812
Um...
729
00:38:58,967 --> 00:39:02,899
Every topic
that you guys have mentioned
730
00:39:03,074 --> 00:39:06,239
has connected dots
actively right now today.
731
00:39:06,394 --> 00:39:09,359
As far as lineage,
as far as bloodlines,
732
00:39:09,361 --> 00:39:11,105
as far as families,
so generational.
733
00:39:11,161 --> 00:39:14,645
My mom, um, myself, my daughter.
734
00:39:14,647 --> 00:39:16,185
I had night terrors as a child,
735
00:39:16,361 --> 00:39:18,532
missing time as a child
throughout my life.
736
00:39:18,534 --> 00:39:21,205
I literally have
short-term memory deficits
737
00:39:21,261 --> 00:39:25,059
and specific things,
real spontaneous phenomenon
738
00:39:25,214 --> 00:39:27,705
that ultimately touches
on everything that
739
00:39:27,861 --> 00:39:29,901
- you guys are talking about.
- Thank you very much.
740
00:39:30,014 --> 00:39:32,679
These hardly ever seem
to be one-off experiences.
741
00:39:32,854 --> 00:39:34,319
Thank you
for sharing your story.
742
00:39:37,354 --> 00:39:39,939
I'd like to say, uh, I applaud
you guys for your courage
743
00:39:40,094 --> 00:39:41,490
to come forward in front
of all these people
744
00:39:41,514 --> 00:39:42,779
and share your story.
745
00:39:42,934 --> 00:39:45,112
I'm blown away
by the amount of people
746
00:39:45,267 --> 00:39:47,072
that, uh, show up at this panel.
747
00:39:47,227 --> 00:39:50,025
And when I see this kind of, uh,
support, it's very encouraging
748
00:39:50,181 --> 00:39:51,532
and I think
that's very important
749
00:39:51,687 --> 00:39:53,932
to bring this phenomenon
out into the light
750
00:39:53,934 --> 00:39:55,865
where it needs to be
because a lot of answers
751
00:39:55,867 --> 00:39:57,645
lie with the experiencers.
752
00:39:57,821 --> 00:39:59,079
So I just thank you for that.
753
00:40:04,681 --> 00:40:08,165
Coming forward to admit
that you've had some type
754
00:40:08,321 --> 00:40:11,892
of a close encounter,
whether it is seeing something
755
00:40:11,901 --> 00:40:14,112
or maybe you've been abducted,
756
00:40:14,267 --> 00:40:17,039
that is a very difficult
thing to admit.
757
00:40:17,194 --> 00:40:20,599
And that is why I think
758
00:40:20,774 --> 00:40:24,285
we really should look at all
the other pieces of evidence:
759
00:40:24,287 --> 00:40:27,699
abduction cases
or close encounters
760
00:40:27,854 --> 00:40:30,392
and say, "Okay, what if?"
761
00:40:30,394 --> 00:40:34,372
I'm happy today that
I'm finally able to say
762
00:40:34,527 --> 00:40:37,699
it's not only real,
it's happening.
763
00:40:37,701 --> 00:40:41,065
Great. Hearing those stories
is of help
764
00:40:41,067 --> 00:40:44,765
to any of you out there who have
had these strange experiences.
765
00:40:44,921 --> 00:40:47,119
And you are not alone with this,
as you can see.
766
00:40:47,121 --> 00:40:50,639
So thank you to you and thank
you to my fellow panelists.
767
00:40:50,794 --> 00:40:55,139
When you look
at the vast body of data
768
00:40:55,294 --> 00:40:57,785
that we have on this phenomenon,
769
00:40:57,961 --> 00:40:59,732
it's difficult
to avoid the conclusion
770
00:40:59,907 --> 00:41:01,725
that something is going on here.
771
00:41:01,781 --> 00:41:03,799
Why should we, therefore,
772
00:41:03,954 --> 00:41:06,959
cast away the stories
of the abductees
773
00:41:06,981 --> 00:41:09,619
just because we may feel
a little uncomfortable
774
00:41:09,774 --> 00:41:11,539
with the place that takes us?
775
00:41:13,701 --> 00:41:15,992
Each year, thousands of people
776
00:41:16,147 --> 00:41:18,225
are bravely coming forward
777
00:41:18,301 --> 00:41:21,645
with personal accounts
of alien abductions.
778
00:41:21,821 --> 00:41:24,372
But is the world's
growing willingness
779
00:41:24,527 --> 00:41:27,352
to hear them and
believe them a sign
780
00:41:27,354 --> 00:41:29,559
that humanity
might be on the brink
781
00:41:29,714 --> 00:41:33,439
of an exciting new period
in its evolution,
782
00:41:33,481 --> 00:41:38,352
one where we will discover
that centuries of alien contact
783
00:41:38,361 --> 00:41:40,919
has changed us in ways
we could never
784
00:41:40,941 --> 00:41:43,545
have previously imagined
or accepted?
785
00:41:43,601 --> 00:41:47,332
Perhaps a greater acceptance
786
00:41:47,487 --> 00:41:49,645
that alien contact is being made
787
00:41:49,801 --> 00:41:52,259
will prepare us for the future,
788
00:41:52,281 --> 00:41:56,019
a future where we will become
789
00:41:56,041 --> 00:41:59,559
the extraterrestrials
on other worlds
790
00:41:59,714 --> 00:42:04,879
and encounter other life-forms
not so different from our own.